U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit (appeal from E.D. Va.)
Schmidt v. City of Norfolk
Is Norfolk's 176-camera Flock network a Fourth Amendment search?
- Docket
4th Cir. No. 26-1227
E.D. Va. No. 2:24cv621
- Judge
- District: Judge Mark S. Davis
- Where it stands
- On appeal. The district court granted the City summary judgment on Jan 27, 2026.
Next · not settled
Oral argument, tentatively Dec 8-11, 2026
Tentatively calendared for Dec 8-11, 2026, with an unresolved scheduling conflict likely to push it to January or March 2027. Not a settled date.
Sealed or restricted
- The opening of paragraph 41 of the Valentin Estevez report, which says whose plates the top-5% capture analysis covered, is redacted in the public refiling (Doc. 180-1).
Pending
- Whether argument stays in December or moves to January or March 2027.
- Whether the Supreme Court takes Porter v. United States (No. 26-5121), which Norfolk named as the similar pending case. Distributed for the Sept 28, 2026 conference.
- Schmidt v. Norfolk's Fourth Circuit argument date. Only tentatively calendared for Dec 8-11, 2026, with the City's counsel unavailable for the whole session. Re-check the docket before citing a date.
- Whether the Supreme Court takes Porter v. United States (No. 26-5121), the plate-reader question Norfolk flagged as similar to Schmidt. Distributed for the Sept 28, 2026 conference; no order yet.
Docket timeline
2025-08-15
Court denies the City's motion to compel the plaintiffs' phone location data and orders it to destroy records Schmidt's carrier improperly disclosed (Doc. 104).
2025-11-21
City refiles the Estevez declaration and report publicly, with redactions (Doc. 180-1).
2026-01-27
District court grants summary judgment to the City (Doc. 191).
2026-04-20
Amicus briefs filed for Plaintiffs-Appellants.
2026-06-11
City files its response brief.
2026-06-18
Amicus briefs filed for the City, including sixteen states and the United States.
2026-07-23
Plaintiffs-Appellants' Reply Brief (Doc. 59).
2026-09-08
Tentatively calendared for the Dec 8-11 session; clerk asks about similar pending cases.
2026-09-09
City answers "YES" to the similar-case question, naming the pending cert petition in Porter v. United States, No. 26-5121 (Doc. 63).
2026-09-15
Deadline to flag conflicts; both sides do.
as of 2026-09-28
Documents
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, order denying motion to dismiss (Doc. 29)2025-02-05order23 p · 1.2 MB
- Schmidt v. Norfolk, Doc. 40, Flock Safety's Memorandum in Support of its Motion to Intervene (Apr 3, 2025)2025-04-03filing24 p · 158 KB
- Schmidt, Doc. 60, Joint Notice of New Authority (Va. ALPR law signed May 2, 2025)2025-05-13filing3 p · 25 KB
- Schmidt, Doc. 60-1, 2025 Va. Acts Ch. 720 (H.B. 2724), chaptered bill2025-05-13policy5 p · 72 KB
- Schmidt v. Norfolk, Doc. 66, Opinion and Order Denying Flock Safety's Motion to Intervene (May 27, 2025)2025-05-27order23 p · 1.3 MB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, Doc. 104, Memorandum Opinion and Order (motion to compel CSLI denied; destruction ordered)2025-08-15order23 p · 1.6 MB
- Norfolk Police Operational Special Order 23-002: Flock Safety (2023), Schmidt Exhibit 16 (Doc. 114-16)2025-09-15policy6 p · 4.1 MB
- 2025 Va. Acts Ch. 720 (H.B. 2724), chaptered bill, Schmidt Exhibit 17 (Doc. 114-17)2025-09-15policy6 p · 75 KB
- Norfolk Police Memo 25-097 and General Order OPR-493: Flock Safety ALPR System (2025), Schmidt Exhibit 18 (Doc. 114-18)2025-09-15policy13 p · 10.1 MB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, Doc. 180-1, redacted Estevez declaration and expert report (revision of ECF 114-9 and 146-4)2025-11-21filing107 p · 7.0 MB
- Schmidt, Doc. 181, Norfolk Notice of Supplemental Authority (Schemel; Floyd)2025-12-12filing4 p · 45 KB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, opinion (Doc. 191)2026-01-27opinion51 p · 2.8 MB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, 4th Cir. 26-1227, Response Brief of Defendants-Appellees2026-06-11brief90 p · 12.3 MB
- Brief of amici South Carolina, 15 other states and D.C. supporting Norfolk (Doc. 44)2026-06-18brief32 p · 320 KB
- Brief of the United States as amicus supporting Norfolk (Doc. 40-1)2026-06-18brief26 p · 264 KB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, Response - Similar Cases (Doc. 63), Defendants-Appellees2026-09-09filing1 p · 144 KB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, PACER Case Query (parties and counsel)2026-09-28docket4 p · 434 KB
- Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, E.D. Va. 2:24-cv-00621, full docket report2026-09-28docket21 p · 1.0 MB
Entries in the record
Jan 27, 2026 · Norfolk, VAverifiedSchmidt v. City of Norfolk: federal judge holds Norfolk's Flock network is not a search
Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, No. 2:24cv621, Document 191 (E.D. Va., Norfolk Div.), Judge Mark S. Davis. Two citations exist for this one document: 2026 WL 207513 and 819 F. Supp. 3d 492. The court granted summary judgment to the City and denied Plaintiffs' cross-motion.
Standing is split. Plaintiffs Lee Schmidt and Crystal Arrington, captured 475 and 325 times over four months in 2025, have standing to challenge the ongoing collection and storage of their vehicle images in Norfolk's 21-day rolling database. Their plates were never queried outside the litigation, so, following Scholl v. Ill. State Police, 776 F. Supp. 3d 701 (N.D. Ill. 2025), they lack standing to challenge the query practice. The merits ruling reaches only collection and storage.
On the merits: Norfolk's 176 ALPR cameras (75 fixed clusters, plus police access to 43 third-party cameras in city limits) do not reveal "the whole" of a person's movements. Plaintiffs' vehicles were captured 2 to 3 full-plate-match times per day on average, "30 to 50 times" fewer data points per day than Carpenter's roughly 101, typically 2.5 to 3.5 miles and 45 to 50 minutes apart. The court places the system closer to the bounded GPS tracking in United States v. Jones than to the "near continuous" tracking in Carpenter or Beautiful Struggle.
"Unblinking eyes" is Plaintiffs' complaint language. The court's answer, in footnote 15, is quoted below.
How we know: Fully verified: opinion read directly (v3.10). Plaintiffs are appealing (4th Cir. No. 26-1227).
Full record →checked v3.10
“[t]he City of Norfolk lives under the watch of a flock of unblinking eyes”
“has many thousands more blind spots than it has 'unblinking eyes,'”
“a black sheet of paper with 75 (or 176) holes punched through it.”
Source chain
- 01Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, No. 2:24cv621, Doc. 191 (E.D. Va.)primarydocket 2:24cv621document (PDF)
- 02Courthouse Newslink being reconstructed
undated · Norfolk, VAverifiedNorfolk's more favorable capture figure comes from its expert's report, now public with redactions
The opinion's "2-3 times per day" figure is footnoted to ECF No. 113 at 9, the City of Norfolk's own district-court summary-judgment brief, and describes the plaintiffs' own vehicles. The City's appellate brief adds a figure for all vehicles: "even the 5% of vehicles that were most photographed were on average photographed no more than once a day," citing the report of its expert, Valentin Estevez. That report was first filed under seal, then refiled publicly with redactions on Nov 21, 2025 (Doc. 180-1), where Estevez puts it as the top 5 percent being "captured once or less on 65% of days." The passage saying whose plates that analysis covered is still redacted. Plaintiffs-Appellants' Reply Brief (Doc. 59) never mentions or disputes the figure, most plausibly because their theory rests on the system's capability, not observed capture frequency.
How we know: Updated Sept 28, 2026: the Estevez report was refiled publicly in redacted form (Doc. 180-1), and the appellate brief is now quoted in full. Earlier versions said the figure rested on a sealed declaration and shortened the brief's wording.
Full record →carried forward
Source chain
- 01Schmidt, Doc. 191, citing ECF No. 113 at 9primarydocument (PDF)
- 02Response Brief of Defendants-Appellees, 4th Cir. No. 26-1227 (June 11, 2026)primarydocument (PDF)
- 03Schmidt, Doc. 180-1 (E.D. Va.), redacted Estevez declaration and reportprimarydocket 2:24cv621document (PDF)
- 04Plaintiffs-Appellants' Reply Brief, Doc. 59primarylink being reconstructed
Aug 15, 2025 · Norfolk, VAverifiedNorfolk subpoenaed the Schmidt plaintiffs' phone location records; the court ordered one set destroyed
Defending the suit, the City sought the plaintiffs' cell-site location data, first through three subpoenas to their cellphone carriers and then through a motion to compel, which also asked each plaintiff to identify the ten people they interacted with most. The City told the court the location data was the most relevant information to the case. Magistrate Judge Lawrence R. Leonard denied the motion. Because both sides agreed that Schmidt's carrier had improperly disclosed his records in response to a subpoena, the court ordered the City to destroy them.
How we know: Order read directly (Doc. 104, read Sept 28, 2026). The order does not name the carrier or say what became of the other two subpoenas.
Full record →carried forward
“the Court is not persuaded that Plaintiffs must surrender their own privacy interests to vindicate their constitutional rights.”
Source chain
- 01Schmidt v. City of Norfolk, No. 2:24cv621, Doc. 104 (E.D. Va.)primarydocket 2:24cv621document (PDF)
Apr 20 and Jun 18, 2026 · Norfolk, VAverifiedWho filed briefs in the Schmidt appeal
For Plaintiffs-Appellants, filed April 20, 2026: ACLU, ACLU of Virginia, and EFF jointly; the New Civil Liberties Alliance; EPIC; the Innocence Project and The Center on Race, Inequality, and the Law at NYU School of Law jointly; The Policing Project at NYU School of Law; the Project for Privacy and Surveillance Accountability; and the Cato Institute.
For the City, filed June 18, 2026: a sixteen-state brief (South Carolina lead, joined by Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and DC); the Commonwealth of Virginia; Human Trafficking Training Center LLC, Operation Light Shine, and Safe House Project jointly; Major Cities Chiefs Association, Major County Sheriffs of America, the North Carolina Association of Chiefs of Police, North Carolina Sheriffs' Association, and Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police and Foundation jointly; the Florida State Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Hispanic Outreach Taskforce, and Multicultural Business Alliance; and the United States ("Brief of the United States as Amicus Curiae in Support of Defendants-Appellees").
The plaintiffs-side brief adds record figures: over 1 million vehicle detections in March 2026 alone with a sub-1% hotlist match rate, and a police audit failure (logs undownloaded until Feb. 2025, unreviewed until May 2025, by which point the system had been queried 230,000+ times).
How we know: Confirmed against the Fourth Circuit docket (CourtListener 72357963). Cato, the U.S., and the Florida chamber brief resolved in v3.13 and v3.19. The Project for Privacy and Surveillance Accountability brief (Doc. 27) was missing until Sept 28, 2026.
Full record →checked v3.19
Source chain
- 01Fourth Circuit docket, No. 26-1227 (CourtListener 72357963)primarydocket 26-1227link being reconstructed
- 02Sixteen-state amicus briefprimarydocument (PDF)
- 03EFF/ACLU/ACLU of Virginia amicus briefprimarylink being reconstructed
- 04footnote4a.org
Sept 9, 2026 · Norfolk, VAverifiedNorfolk points the Fourth Circuit to a pending Supreme Court petition on plate-reader searches
On Sept 8, 2026 the Clerk's Office asked both sides whether any similar case is pending in the Fourth Circuit or the Supreme Court. Plaintiffs-Appellants answered "NO". Defendants-Appellees answered "YES" on Sept 9 and named Porter v. United States, No. 26-5121: Elijah Porter's petition from the Fifth Circuit's March 17, 2026 decision (No. 25-60163), which held that accessing plate-reader data was not a Fourth Amendment search. The petition was distributed for the Supreme Court's Sept 28, 2026 conference. If the Court takes it, the Supreme Court will decide the question at the center of Schmidt.
How we know: Norfolk's filing read directly (Doc. 63, obtained Sept 28, 2026); Supreme Court docket fetched directly. Our earlier working guess, Chatrie v. United States, was wrong.
Full record →carried forward
“A pending petition for certiorari in Porter v. United States, No. 26-5121, presents the question whether a police officer violates the Fourth Amendment by accessing a database containing automatic license plate reader data. The petition also raises an unrelated Second Amendment question. The Supreme Court has not acted on the petition.”
Source chain
- 01Fourth Circuit docket, No. 26-1227primarydocket 26-1227link being reconstructed
- 02Response - Similar Cases, Defendants-Appellees (Doc. 63)primarydocket 26-1227document (PDF)
- 03Supreme Court docket, No. 26-5121primarydocket 26-5121
Sept 8, 2026 · Norfolk, VApartialSchmidt appeal: argument tentatively set for Dec 8-11, with an unresolved conflict
On Sept 8, 2026 the case was "TENTATIVELY CALENDARED for oral argument during the December 8-11, 2026, argument session," with a Sept 15 deadline to flag conflicts. Plaintiffs-Appellants' lead counsel is unavailable Dec 8-9 but available Dec 10-11. Defendants-Appellees' counsel (Elaine Goldenberg) is unavailable all four days and states she is "fully available during the Court's January and March sittings." No order resolving this had been entered as of Sept 23, 2026.
How we know: Confirmed against the docket. The date itself is not settled; likely to move to January or March 2027.
Full record →checked v3.28
Source chain
- 01Fourth Circuit docket, No. 26-1227primarydocket 26-1227link being reconstructed
- 02UNC School of Government post, Sept 14, 2026link being reconstructed
Jun 18, 2026verifiedThe sixteen-state brief leans on a two-camera, one-house case
United States v. Gregory, 128 F.4th 1228 (11th Cir. 2025), concerns two warrantless pole cameras on one co-defendant's home for about 10 months. The Eleventh Circuit found no Fourth Amendment violation. The sixteen-state brief quotes the line below as its opening, and Judge Davis's opinion relies on it too. Judge Jordan's partial concurrence cautioned against reading the public-view doctrine as blanket immunity for pole cameras "regardless of the length of time they record," which the brief also quotes at p. 11.
How we know: Confirmed twice (v3.9 against Gregory itself, v3.10 against the brief). A full sentence-by-sentence fairness check of the brief was not done.
Full record →checked v3.10
“[n]othing in the Constitution forbids the government from using technology to conduct lawful investigations more efficiently”
Source chain
undatedverifiedThe "ankle monitor" line is from Beautiful Struggle, not the Norfolk judge
The phrase is a verbatim quote from Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle v. Baltimore Police Dep't, 2 F.4th 330, 341-42 (4th Cir. 2021), invoked in the Schmidt appellate briefing on both sides. Judge Davis's opinion discusses Beautiful Struggle at length but does not coin the phrase.
How we know: Resolved v3.8, reconfirmed against the opinion in v3.10.
Full record →checked v3.10
Source chain
- 01Schmidt, Doc. 191primarydocument (PDF)
- 02Schmidt appellate briefsprimarylink being reconstructed